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7. The Emperor: Power Beyond Patriarchy & Embodying Nonbinary Daddy Energy w/ Kelly Marshall

Cecily Sailer / Kelly Marshall Episode 7

In this episode, we explore The Emperor with Kelly Marshall, a nonbinary writer and yoga therapist who supports people with nervous system recalibration, embodiment, and trauma-informed approaches to yoga, teaching, and community-building.

Together, we examine the imagery of The Emperor card and the energies and meanings conveyed by the visual composition of the archetype. We question why female and femme-identifying folks might struggle to connect with this card (idk, could be THE PATRIARCHY?!). Kelly also shares how they have personally experienced embodiment with Emperor energy in a way that's been healing for them and others — through presence in academia, community, and kink and BDSM spaces.

We also look at presentations of masculinity through the lens of The Emperor, exploring questions of responsibility and responsiveness. And we can't talk about The Emperor without discussing themes of organization, structure, energy leaks, allocation of resources, and breaking down big visions into smaller steps. We also get into sovereignty and self-determination as trauma-informed perspectives, Daddy issues, The Emperor's relationship to The Empress, and we pull cards to ask The Emperor a question.

You can learn more about Kelly and their work on Instagram at @spectrumwellness or via their website.

Other resources mentioned in this episode:
+ Fight Right by John Gottman
+ The Brady Tarot
+ Fyodor Pavlov Tarot

+ Meet Chantal deFelice, our sound designer and episode editor.
+ Meet Ami Plasse, who designed the YC&ML logo.

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